Var är C64:ans kommandotolk?

Computer Sweden listar de nio, enligt dem, mest minnesvärda operativsystemen genom tiderna.

Jag förstår inte hur de kan utelämna C64:ans klassiska operativsystem för textkommandon – med inbyggd basic-interpretator. Mycket användbart.

Är förresten C64-emulatorerna till Windows och Linux är lagliga att ladda hem, eller innehåller de upphovsrättsskyddade element som gör nedladdningen kriminell?

8 thoughts on “Var är C64:ans kommandotolk?

  1. Märkligt! C64ans “operativ” var där allt började för min del.

    Håller med om att kombinationen BASIC-kommandotolk är genial. Och har aldrig stött på ett operativ där man kunna skapa delar av programmet direkt i tolken!

    Mitt första program någonsin:

    10PRINT”OLOF”
    20GOTO10

    Vansinnigt roligt!

    • Here in “the states” our gersteat Socialism experiments (and the gersteat cultural controversies) are embodied in the pro-Abortion movements, with the majority of funding from private as well as government agencies funneling through the Planned Parenthood organization.So what really is the agenda behind socialist organizatoins like planned parenthood? Is it really about individual rights, or is the agenda actually about controlling the collective of society?I have short treatise (long web post) to explain.To the pro-abortionists the overall benefit to the collective of society is more important than the benefit to the individual. Hence individual sacrifice for the benefit of society is expected. There is a parallel here with the Biblical perspective of individual sacrifice, but the overall priorities are different. Difference is whether or not sacrificing human life is acceptable in achieving collective benefit.Pro-abortionists believe it is acceptable, if not actually honorable, to sacrifice not only your own life in support of the collective, but to also sacrifice the lives of people you judge as non-beneficial to the collective. In this, ending the life of a child prior to birth is deemed acceptable when they are judged to become a potential burden on the collective. Same argument is made in justifying the termination of the elderly when they are judge to become a burden on the collective.Anti-abortionists believe that individual life is of higher value than an arbitrary perspectives regarding collective benefit of society. And in that the collective benefits the most when we make the value of human life our primary priority.In the liberal versus conservative debate, the pro-abortionist view is embraced by liberals seeking to create a global Utopia by careful engineering and control of society and of individual lives. While anti-abortionists tend to be those embracing a religious point of view of society, wherein religion (especially Christianity) contradicts the Utopian ideologies of this mortal world. Christians and like-minded people view the entropic chaos of the world as inevitable, and seek to achieve a sends of order within the chaos, rather than try to defeat the chaos.Jesus was very clear on these points. He values human life above the cause of the collective, as well as values the death of the Faithful. Jesus spoke against the efforts of the Jewish leaders to achieve a mortal Utopia via their own works and personal efforts, instead reminding us of the failed chaotic nature of our sinful world. The very chaotic nature we expressed in terms such as entropy.Jesus is clear that mortal entropy and chaos can only be reversed by God Himself, and will indeed happen at some point. The consequence will be the end of this world and a re-born existence, rather than the achievement of a global Utopia in the world we now know.If we step back a minute and take a wider perspective, we see why the agenda of Liberalism in achieving global Utopia embraces a pro-abortion stance. While those who embrace a Conservative agenda of achieving a semblance of order among the chaos embrace a pro-life stance.Liberals generally view life as an obstacle if that life doesn’t properly support their idea of collective benefit.Conservatives generally view life as the priority for which the collective is responsible to support.

  2. Som lekman skulle jag tro att C64ans OS fortfarande borde vara skyddat av upphovsrätt, men vilka det än är som äger det nu för tiden bryr sig inte så mycket. Däremot är det någon som fortfarande håller rätt hårt i Amigans Kickstart (den delen av Amiga-DOS som låg i ROM), vilket jag upptäckte för ett tag sedan när jag letade efter en Amiga-emulator.

  3. Torde vara helt lagligt.

    Även för mig var det där det började, i C64:ans operativ. Små enkla program som blev större. Jag var 8 år gammal.

  4. Generellt brukar det vara så att emulering av maskinvara är fullt tillåtet, däremot är OS och applikationer du kör i emulatorn skyddade som vanligt. Om du tankar hem en officiell, laglig distribution av en emulator får du fixa ROM eller dylikt på annat håll. I praktiken riskerar man knappast att bli IPRED-jagad för material till datorer som varit borta från marknaden i evigheter.

  5. C64-emulator, javisst.

    VICE is a program that runs on a Unix, MS-DOS, Win32, OS/2, Acorn RISC OS, BeOS, QNX 4.x, QNX 6.x, Amiga, GP2X, SkyOS or Mac OS X machine and executes programs intended for the old 8-bit computers. The current version emulates the C64, the C64DTV, the C128, the VIC20, almost all PET models, the PLUS4 and the CBM-II (aka C610).

    Givetvis är VICE fritt, General Public License.

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